२०६२ माघ ११, मंगलबार
नामै न- गर भएको निर्वाचन गराउन खोज्ने सरकारको जिद्दी देखेर जिल खाएको म निर्वाचन हुन धेरै दिन बाँकी नहुँदा पनि निर्वाचनको एउटै पर्चा नभेटिँदा छक्क परेको थिएँ। तर आज न्युरोड जाँदा यो पहेँलो पर्चा भेटेँ। तपाईँहरुका लागि मैले यो पर्चाको तस्वीर खिचेर राखेको छु। पर्चा अलि लामो भएकोले भित्र राखेको छु। हेरिसकेपछि प्रतिक्रिया लेख्न नभुल्नु है त। बाँकी
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Comment by babu — January 24, 2006 @ 8:37 pm
I like the birth, death and rebirth part.. well thought! hahaha..ani merosansar lai googlebombing ko lagi badai chha. it actually works!
Comment by abiral — January 24, 2006 @ 9:28 pm
पर्चामा उल्लेख गर्न छुटेका केहि कुराहरु जुन मैले सरर्सर्ती हेर्दा पाएँ कृपया थप्न नभुल्नु होला ।
अनुभव
४६ सालमा आन्दोलनकारीलाई पिटेको तथा गोली चलाएको
माघ १९ को र्समर्थनमा दिपावली, नारावाजी र मोटरसाइकल -याली गरेको
लोकतान्त्रिक पार्टी कार्यालयहरुमा तोडफोडमा सक्रिय
हालको सक्रियता
भिजिलान्ते समुहहरु बनाई लोकतन्त्रका र्समथकहरुलाई ढुगांमुढामा सक्रिय
चुनावी नारा
चाकारीवाद र भ्रष्टचार हाम्रो मन्त्र अजेय छ नेपाली राजतन्त्र
राजभक्ती अमर रहोस ।
मकरतन्त्र जिन्दावाद लोकतन्त्र मुर्दावाद
हाम्रो मुखमा ह्विस्की र चुस्की बहुदलवादीको मुखमा किरा परोस्
नगरको बजेट खान्छौ खान्छौ
मौकामा चौका हान्छौ हान्छौ
भोट बन्दुकमा हालौ नेपालबाट सधै शान्ती भगाऔ ।
उत्तम, अमेरिका
Comment by उत्तम — January 24, 2006 @ 10:02 pm
उमेश जी यो चुनाव प्रचार प्रसारको पोस्टर साह्रै सान्दर्भीक लाग्यो । यो पोस्टरलाइ त सबै ब्लगहरुमा राखेर प्रचार प्रसार गर्नु राम्रो होला जस्तो लाग्यो । तर्सथ यदी मिल्छ भने यो फोटोलाइ सबैले कपी गर्न मिल्ने गरी राख्नुहोला ।
चहल सयपत्री
Comment by चहल सयपत्री — January 24, 2006 @ 10:02 pm
photo chai kamal thapa ko rakhna parne thiyo ni. Ani jhan sandarvik hune thiyo. Blog ma ta rakhna hunchha ni.
Comment by Sk, ITC — January 24, 2006 @ 10:59 pm
nicely worded Great pamphlet!
Gives very clear picture of the candidates of so called ” Na-gar Nirbachan”..
Good work, thumbs Up…
Comment by NepaliKeta — January 24, 2006 @ 11:23 pm
sensible humour
Comment by Rakesh — January 24, 2006 @ 11:46 pm
Nice!
Comment by Mukti Sir — January 25, 2006 @ 12:03 am
Yo pani nirankustale adhyaro bato tira deslai ghachetdai garda lagaune euta paso nai ho…yastai kura haru hun sarba sadharan ko dimagma chhitai ghusne…harekle aafule sakeko yogdan garnu parchha …ee fatahaharuko hat bata des bachaunako lagi.
Malai khub sandarbhik lagyo….sabai lageka chhan harek prakarle des bachaunako lagi…
Comment by Bideep Gaule — January 25, 2006 @ 12:42 am
By the way, don’t you think most of the things said there in the leaflet apply to the political parties too? Haven’t they been corrupt? Haven’t they been loyal to the king at one time or the other when they were in power or when they were about to be given power?
All hypocrites…People are forgetful…I still remember nepali ukhan “aafno tauko ko hatti dekhdaina, aruko chahi bhusuna pani dekhcha”…I did not mean the panches are good but the parties aren’t the best either…It is in fact because of the parties that led to the birth of maoists…shame on parties…Wish we had better leaders…we are going to suffer as long as we continue to suffer from lack of an able leader who is far from corruption and other evils that succummed the present leaders
Comment by bibas — January 25, 2006 @ 1:37 am
Regarding political parties and maoist, everyone makes mistake as noone is god. Sooner you realize the mistake and correct it, better it will be. It’s true that 14 yrs after the democary was not very fruitful and Maoists are the creation of mis-governence and corruptions and political parties not being able to hear the people’s voice.
Now, it seems that maoist and political parties have got the lesson and they want to work on it, why shouldn’t we give them a chance? But noone should challenge poeple’s soverneity.
I was in Thailand for 2 yrs and they still have monarchy system there. People worship there as a god though the king doesn’t declare him as a generation of god as someone does here. They had similar problem about 20 yrs ago which we are facing now. At that moment of crisis, King tried to win the heart of the people as a King , not as an active politician. He started many development program in the unrest regions. Army and rebel worked hand in hand to give a new direction to the country and now they are one of the developed country in the region.
We must not forget that Every problem has a solution. There is Nothing that can not be resolved if we sit and negotiate.
Comment by NepaliKeta — January 25, 2006 @ 1:46 am
Its nice. Keep it up.
Comment by Ramhari Poudyal,United Kingdom — January 25, 2006 @ 2:24 am
Nepal is passing through a great transition today. The struggle that the Communist Party of Nepal (Maoist) [CPN(M)] have been leading has already made the most profound revolutionary changes in the lives of millions of people in Nepal. This most historic process of transformation can only hope to succeed if it wins the active and determined support of people around the world,” said Mr. Anand Swaroop Verma, a well-known left intellectual and human rights activist from India who as a journalist has been closely watching Nepalese politics for more than two decades. He is on a speaking tour through Europe organized by the World People’s Resistance Movement under the slogan; — European Speaking Tour —
Revolution in Nepal: A New World is Possible!
Tour Dates as of 24 Jan 2006:
Sat. Jan. 21 Hamburg
Sun. Jan. 22 Berlin
Thurs. Jan. 26 Massa (Italy)
Sat. Jan. 28 Palermo (Italy)
Mon. Jan. 30 Rome
Fri. Feb. 3 Cologne
Sat. Feb. 4 Rotterdam
Sun. Feb. 5 Brussels
Tues. Feb. 7 Oslo
Wed. Feb. 8 Gothenburg
Thurs. Feb. 9 Copenhagen
Sat. Feb. 11 Vienna
Sun. Feb. 12 Frankfurt
Feb. 13 to 15 (additional dates may be announced)
Revolution in Nepal: A New World is Possible! Addressing a gathering of political and social activists in Berlin on Sunday (Feb. 22), he spoke on the various aspects of the Nepalese people’s fight against the feudal monarchy and cautioned against the conspiracy of the imperialist powers in general and US imperialism in particular who want to sabotage the movement and are looking for the chance to intervene militarily. Mr. Verma also called upon the Indian government “basking under the glory of Indian democracy as the largest in the world” to seriously consider its attitude and approach toward revolutionary democratic movements.
During his 30 minute presentation, which was simultaneously translated into German and Turkish, he discussed the background of the struggle, analysed the agreement between the seven parliamentary parties and the CPN (M) and described the profound changes taking place in the lives of those who are living in the revolutionary base areas which are administered by Maoist led People’s Committees.
After the speech a question-and-answer session was held and many important issues that were raised in the presentation were discussed in greater depth. In particular women in the audience were keen to know how the condition and role of women was changing and the status of “dalits” (so-called “untouchables”) was focused upon. Special mention was made of the fact that among the fighter of the People’s Liberation Army (PLA) more than 30% are women - something unique in the history of a revolutionary army anywhere in the world.
One participant in the program who has recently returned from the revolutionary base area in Rolpa related how the revolutionary government of the Magarat Autonomous Region is constructing a 91 kilometre long road through the participation of thousands of residents of the area.
The Berlin meeting was the second in series with a similar meeting having been held the night before (Jan. 21) in Hamburg.
The overall purposed of this speaking tour through Europe is to make people aware of the great movement that is taking place in Nepal. It is a fact that around the world, and especially in Europe, very little is broadly known about the true situation in Nepal and the foundations of a new world that are being laid there through the struggle and sacrifice of the people. In addition to cities in Germany Mr. Verma is scheduled to speak in Italy, Norway, Belgium, Austria, Sweden, Denmark and the Netherlands.
Press Contact: +49 - (0)174 - 829 5207
or
Email: nepaltour2006@yahoo.com.
— European Speaking Tour —
Revolution in Nepal: A New World is Possible!
World People’s Resistance Movement (Europe)
— European Speaking Tour —
Comment by bipin — January 25, 2006 @ 4:33 am
I agree with Mr Bibas.
Just go through the everyday comments made by so called ‘Leaders’, they are not consistent in any aspect. They seemed pretending to threaten the king, and look at the king, he doesn’t gives a damn (some times I appreciate this attitude of Gyanendra).
Did any body ever thought that Just few years after the 2046 event, Lokendra Chand and Surya Bahadur will lead the country again?? It happened just to put each other down (Congress and CPNUML - Bhai Fute Ganwar Lute).
Madhav Kumar Nepal is still living in the shock ( Gyanendra denied his premiership and recalled Deuwa). Has he been allowed to be the prime Minister, political scenario today would be entirely different.
I had moral support for Maoists in early days, but today, they are nothing less than Terrorists. Their act of violence and attrocites to common people is not justifiable in any aspect. Their leaders must be eliminated at any cost.
Comment by Dhruba Munankarmi — January 25, 2006 @ 5:39 am
I also agree with Bibas.
It’s the matter of great regret that there is NOT A SINGLE HONEST, PATRIOTIC political leader who really cares for the country and people rather than himself. Most of the present leaders are free style swimmers of “corruption, nepotism” swimming pool. I had a faint hope from the king but the king proved to be a blind autocrat bussiness man who was not able to dissolve his dark spots in his royal dress from the past.
Hope pashupati nath gives us a HONEST, PATRIOTIC political leader who cares about the country and people and lead us to a better future…
Comment by NepaliKeta — January 25, 2006 @ 6:17 am
yes and also whatever…right now we need end to autocracy…the criticizm, though correct and righful, has its place and timing. Right now, these kind of comments simply aid the autocrat. So, reserve these for sometime until democracy returns in Nepal. Till then, down with autocracy…time and moments matters now…
Comment by Chandan — January 25, 2006 @ 9:31 am
Thik Chha Ok.
Comment by Krishna Bhattarai — January 25, 2006 @ 9:47 am
KGARNE YO DURBHAGYE HO
.. TAUKO FUTYE PANI, ANDOLON GAREPANI, MAREPANI….KEI HUNE WALA CHIINA… PARTY HARULE BERSE TYO 13-14 BARSE SASAN KAL , JABA NEPAL LAI CHEEL LE SINO LUCHE JASTARI LUCHERA SIDDHAYE..BHULEYO DEAR DEMOCRATIC PARTY HARU ???????
Comment by RAJENDRA — January 25, 2006 @ 10:16 am
The Parcha is a great stuff for fun. I liked that.
We have yet to see the names of candidates. I am
mentally prepared to hear the death of a ROYAL candidates
via Chinese Pistols owned by Maoists and supplied
by Sponsors of Feb 01, i.e. Chinese themselves.
However, I do not wish there should be any deliberate
killings. Thats just my wishes, under current
circumstances, my wishes are just wishes as long as
Chinese Govt. supports Royal KG govt. I am sure that
the KG govt. will hide the name of real Mandale candidates
and the fate of these candidate’s life can be realized
through eKantipur’s cartoon sections. God bless their life.
Meanwhile, it is very interesting to see that KG’s great
supporter of Feb 1 move, the Big Bro China is
now CONCERNED with the situation in Nepal.
It clearly shows that China is smelling that they
may lose political party’s support and China may
be viewed by Nepali public as Enemy of Nepali
Janata. They might be realizing that KG can not
go ahead with Feb 01 agenda.
China is not a good and nor a great country that
can be partner to Nepal. It has given nothing
to nepal while King Mahendra gave them half of
Mt. Everest for the silence in 2017. I am not
saying India is a country of saint. But, China
is losing public’s positive view in Nepal.
Lets not forget that Chinese Pistols are used
by Maobadis and RNA is using Chinese arms and ammunition
, so Nepalis are killing each other using Chinese
arms and its certainly deplorable. Chinese are the
villians in Feb 01 move, i.e. they are the mastermind
and back bench seaters.
I am very concerned when I read that Chinese are are
concerned in Nepal’s current political issues.
Gyaen
Comment by Gyaen — January 25, 2006 @ 11:28 am
Its nice contribution.
Janak Raj Gautam
Kalanki
Comment by Janak Raj Gautam — January 25, 2006 @ 12:26 pm
It is really great job. I would like to thank you that you are doing the best job. Please keep on.
Comment by Kiran K Upadhyay — January 25, 2006 @ 12:30 pm
Chandan,
While I agree there is a need for democracy, we should not forget to look back into ourselves for our performance over the past decade. I understand there is no place for autocratic King, but the parties have to reflect upon their actions.
Look at the majority of activists…I am sure you are well aware of where they are from, from which financial background they come from and what were the expectations of the poor parents when they send their kids to Kathmandu for higher education.
Political parties remained numb while the people in the rural area suffered from illiteracy, ignorance and poverty and when there is a claim over their status, here they go…Nepal is doomed.
One might argue KG has taken away the freedom of speech and expression, freedom of press and freedom to gather around. But hey how many of those rural people do you think really care? We should not just look at our benefit.
I am sure I will be paralysed when I am prohibited to write what I want but have we ever cared to listen to other people from the country which lies outside the valley? By outside I meant the rural areas not the centres for corrupted political thought.
As I mentioned above, democracy is definitely the best option we have but we should not let these parasites take the power again..Sadly, that is what exactly going to happen. Again what is next? Another civil war? Well if we are to have a sustainable peace and harmony in order to build a prosperous Nepal, we need not only correct KG but also the political parties…I guess KG doesn’t have too long of a future as an autocrat but sadly, these parties are going to win elections no matter what happens in the country. So, we are never going to get out of these freaking bastards who will then continue sucking the blood until and unless some real leaders come into the scene…
I think I have written too much out here…Chandan, its also the time to think…and be responsible to those families in the rural Nepal who elected NETAS, and whose children are now fighting for the status of these NETAS…if we are to act in the true faith of democracy…
Comment by bibas — January 25, 2006 @ 1:16 pm
I found one of the previous comment very biased. If we look at this problem, India is playing more active role than China. You should note that India is such a power in south asia that can’t see it’s neighbor doing good. It started the Tamil liberation crisis in Srilanka, divided pakistan from bangladesh, killing many muslims in kasmir though they are more inclined towards Pakistan than India. India is harboring Maoist as well. The political party’s leaders go to India and RAW’s agent fix their meeting with maoist leaders. India was supporting weapons to Nepal (95 % of armery in RNA is bought from Indian army, not Chinese) till King was dancing in its tune and all the sudden, it stopped when the King started to play china card.
Indian leaders came to Nepal and chanted the slogan against the government (noone from china ever did that).
Open your eyes dude, and look at the picture from broad perspective. Thanks
Comment by NepaliKeta — January 25, 2006 @ 1:17 pm
Yo pic copy garna milne banaunu paryo …i think we need to use it as a tool against election …so guy’s spread it to all Nepali…….
Comment by Raji — January 25, 2006 @ 2:01 pm
ऊमेश जी
बधाई छ।
Comment by अनिश भट्टराई — January 25, 2006 @ 2:29 pm
Yo dunima yesto pani dekna payo.
Comment by prasun — January 25, 2006 @ 3:23 pm
haha jhukkaunu bhayo malai umesh dai
Comment by deelip — January 25, 2006 @ 4:36 pm
NepaliKeta,
I understand your frustration with India, however,
Indian Govt is publicly tested government. In Sri
Lanka they went, and they also returned. Why did
they return? Because they were losing not the war,
but the election. Political leaders in democratic
society are scared of losing your and my single
single votes. That is why democracy is not the best
solution, but only the best among available systems.
Rajiv got paid back for his mistakes.
Can anyone speak against china? Even Google fought
back with US govt. but Google has to kneel down in
front of Chinese Govt, because Chinese Govt is a bull
whose leaders are never tested publicly and you don’t
inside China and China’s policy is always suspicious,
while India stopped its arms once Gyanendra too power
in Feb 01 last year. But, China supplied arms to both
side of warrier: Chinese pistol to Maoist and Arms
and ammunition to RNA. China wants other countries to
be autocratic like themselves so that autocratic
system in China is always justified. We should not
forget that India has allowed free access to its
job market and to its Army where millions of Nepalis
work freely, well, you might say they are in poor
condition. Its not only Nepalis they are working in
poor condition, but Indians themselves in poor condition.
Indians trust nepalis and give job opportunities to
Nepalis more than their own fellow countrymen. Well,
I certainly disagree that India should not behave as
boss, but should be behaving as a partner in developing
southasia. I am sure as the Old Colonial Mentality
in Beaurocracy will slowly meltdown and in due time,
new generation of more wise people lead, India will
become a great leader in widening democracy around
the world, and it will be a great partner to America
when it comes to making Democracy a household word
around the world. China is certainly a lucrative partner
to Corporate America, but not to the Democratic Americans.
Nepal should make better relationship with India than with
China, the Chinese Card is good only to avoid being
occiasionally intimidated by Indian politics, especially,
when crisis prevails in Indian Politics, the Indian politics
intrudes in neighboring countries to keep the politicians’
power grip intact. Its what happened in Indian election
times since 1947. Bangladesh, Sikkim, Kargil wars, Kashmir
, Sri Lanka, Goa, Sri Nagar (Khalistan), ….. were all
election cards. But, Indian elections are more controlled
by economic policies than by old colonial style cards.
Lets not fear from India, but we should fear from China.
Gyaen
http://www.kantipur.org/
Comment by Gyaen — January 25, 2006 @ 7:12 pm
Gyaen,
Your arguments are baseless. Just try to find out the total arms purchase by RNA. Find the name of the countries from where they were purchased.
You need to grow up and learn how to write justifiable arguments with sufficient back up when you make claims. Well, I guess, you have not been too much into the art of writing effectively…Learn it here…our feedbacks and comments should be good enough for you to improve your style…
“China is not a good and nor a great country that
can be partner to Nepal”
Just look at this argument. How can you make such claims? What evidence do you have to proove that it is not a good or a great country for us?
Well just try to think….Given the increasing role that China plays in the global economy, I see a great potential for collaboration…Look at the increasing Nepalese students going to China…the increasing trade statistics…Further down the road, may be we can exploit the chinese job market…So claims without sufficient back up information simply cannot be trusted…
Comment by bibas — January 25, 2006 @ 8:12 pm
Umesh Ji great job
i like the way of expression that the common people understand clearly the use of municiple polls by the present government. its really great.
LN Gautam
USA
Comment by LN Gautam — January 25, 2006 @ 8:23 pm
Why China Vs India?
Still, Prithvi N Shah’s opinion holds - “China is sleeping tiger for us, do not annoy him”. He did not say “sleeping elephant”. It can be great or terrible country for Nepal. India’s contribution is also great to us and will remain great (either for positive reasons or negative). Most of folks in our generation have anti-indian centiments basically due to Panchayet era education and some influence of leftist movement in the country. Perhaps that is the reason, I found only few people talking about positive contribution of India to nepal.
Being myself involved in some grass root level leftist student movement, I learnt chanting anti indian slogans. But, I felt that we are in mistake as a large mass of nepalese do benefit from india, mostly in hard times and mostly when they are fighting against DO OR DIE crisis (either political, economical or else) of their lives. India can be viewed as a bad neighbor of Nepal, but good neighbor of nepalese. Nowhere in other part of the world, a foreigner (nepalese people for India) entertain so much freedom and opportunities as we nepalese do in India.
Why not Nepal Vs India Vs Sikkim?
This is just for discussion that I anticipate there will be larger benefits to nepalese in total to change the status of Nepal as a state of Greater India or Greater China, than remaining an autocratic kingdom (a quasi failed state) as of today. When I talked this to my friends, I was almost beaten. I am sure you also will get angry reading this. However, I kept telling my friends, there is no harm in assessing “What if” situations.
Today, nepalese feel great when they get US greencard. There is open competition in filling out DV lotteries, no body seems against this trend. In a free society, one may choose to be american, the other one indian. If the majority feels good to be american or indian why not change the whole country a state of others. I do not understand, why all nepalese want to be american and why nepalese don’t want to turn nepal a state of america (but will america be ready for this?). Everybody thinks we should take benefit of rising economy of China and india, why not other benefits beyond economy that one can get merging its own country?
All politicians say there is a great threat to Nepal becoming it as Sikkim (or indulged by India). India has its own problems, why it will be interested to add more problems taking Nepal. I bet, Sikkim is living more prosperous and dignified life than Nepal. There is peace, motivation, law and order and self esteem (Just take time to visit Sikkim 2 weeks or 1 month of your holidays, you will feel living in there for your whole retired life). These days, sikkim is heading toward becoming leader in preserving art and culture of Nepal. Shame for Nepal, being an independent country, it can not do that even.
I have visited more than 15 countries, but everywhere I was scrutinized so badly just because I have green colored nepalese passport, and nepalese are unfamous for drug-trafficing. Those having red or navy-blue passport do rarely face such unnecessary scrutinization although there are top rated criminals in those countries more than anywhere else.
Under the assumption, we will have peaceful Nepal and the King, general citizen can rise upto his highest career to be nearest to the King, obeying his orders (a slave of King?). See the ruling class Thapas, and others, they just know to repeat “Shree 5 ko sadikchhaa….”. Nepalese diaspora have proven they can rise much higher than the King’s slaves when they convert them a global citizen.
Having a large country, large population, large economy, large competition is essential to have large opportunity and better law and order. If Nepal remains firm in becoming a small country, we will see continuation of present condition, instability, poverty, etc. Capable people keep moving out of country. Today we export our best people from the country to US, Europe and Japan, tomorrow, to China, India, etc. We keep hoping to have better Nepal (expressing opinions in blogs and debating), but we keep frustrating on the fact that there are none capable people in the country, because they already left in one or other way.
Comment by ZZ — January 25, 2006 @ 10:06 pm
My core conclusion is, in the acts of China and India towards Nepal, lies their own benefit as the base. Its not ‘NISWARTHA PAROPAKAR’ and why should we expect it to be? Its all about give and take.
Undoubtly, Nepal is less strategically important country for China, so is China for Nepal. Historically, Nepal is much inclined towards India due to its geographic location and accessibility to the world through India. For its sustainability, Nepal needs more favor of India than of China.
India always bullied on Nepal, specifically in political aspects. Our leaders are happy to let them do it. (what does the recent visits of our beloved political leaders to Delhi reflects? What does The meeting of nepali leaders with Maoists in Delhi despite the denial of Indian government signifies?)
My poimt is, its not important whether India is good or China. The fact to consider is, which one is important for Nepal, China or India.
Comment by Dhruba — January 26, 2006 @ 1:09 am
ZZ,
Your arguments show another facet of Nepali life.
I know there are millions of Nepalis who are proud
of getting Indian citizens. Examples are simply
available if you walk in the streets of Delhi,
Bombay or Deharadun.
In this blogsite, you can see there are some
people who are running propaganda against democracy
will certainly dislike my stand on “China can never
be a partner to Nepal, it can be only a temporary
card to do something against India.” China is much
terrible bull and will never appreciate democracy
around the world, nor in Nepal. Well, China attracted
Nepalis because they made Prithvi Highway, Arnico
highway, and PokharaBaglung road and Gorkha Narayan
ghat roat. India did make Tribhuvan Highway, Siddrath
Highway in addition to jobs to millions of nepalis
in the past, now and in future. The education system
in nepal that surpasses the world standard, can also
be indirectly attributed to the quality of eduation in
India. Its all can be attributed to open border.
India will remain Nepal’s best partner eventhough
there are some harsh moments, and incidences. We
are certainly disappointed with the safe haven
given by India …. Maoists killed people in humanly,
but in last 1 year, the inhumanity in RNA spreads
much faster and wider than the way Maoists did in early
days until 2004. It is very surprising to hear that
Maoists have changed their harsh stance and invited all
those people who were forced to leave their villages and
they have waived all their fatwa, and the ball has gone
to RNA’s side. Now, RNA is much worst in human right
than current Maoists ( I am not talking about the Maosit’s
in the past). RNA is now guided by Chinese Embassy and
Pakistani embassies. Chinese love to crush anyone who loves
democracy or so faith in Democracy.
Autocratic regime are good for Capitalistic / Corporate
america, and not for democratic america. China’s global
economy may die if USA and Europe switch their imports to
India or some other east asian countries as they did in
1995. In 1995, they move all plants from Thailand, Malasia,
Indonesia and to china, and the economy in these east countries suddenly sunk …. and we saw the crisis of 1995-2000 in East asia. Same cycle may repeat in china, soon
or later and china’s dream will soon die. The important
thing china lacks is brand name, unless they have their
own brand name, the production plants can be switched to
any other country and it can create a big trouble autocratic
china’s regime and demand for democracy in China may repeat
again. Until then, china will try to widen its influence
around the world. Well, these are possibilities. World will
not like to see china a failed state or crumble into pieces,
so world does not want china to break into pieces and have
several Afganistans. So, world will only not let china widen
its influence in other countries. In this fight against
autocratic regimes, US, UK, EU and India are on one side i.e.
with people in nepal and China and Pakis are with Royal
Govt of nepal. China is smelling that King’s rule can not prevail in nepal, so they look shifting their stance or
having crocodile tears. China will never be a partner to
nepal in her quest for democracy.
Lets not forget that democracy in nepal has not failed in
last 13 years, and what is happening is also a step towards
strengthening democracy. The leaders are learning that
they should not be corrupt and when a next set of leaders
will come they will not make the same mistake, but there
will be no fool proof, and we will be making new mistakes
, should learn from these mistakes and vow not to make
same mistake again.
Lets not say that last 13 years was not worth. We had
changed our education system and that was a great achievement. That happened only because of democracy.
we have so many great colleges and schools who provide
world class education, especially, techncial schools.
Who goes to china these days from nepal, only those
who can not get admission in Nepal.
God bless Nepal.
Gyaen
Comment by Gyaen — January 26, 2006 @ 1:39 am
Bibas,
Let me tell you: aula le tara dekhauda, tara tira herne
ho, aula ma herne hoina.
In your last posting you were desperate when you
did not have logic and contents, you started pouring
your personal venom on me, i.e. you were too personal
and check your last posting. I am not
going to repond to your posting in future and no
one should communicate with people like you who
are more emotional, specifically, personal. You should
learn to respect others by avoiding any personal attack,
particularly when it comes to social or public issues.
Umesh ji, you should monitor contributers so that no one is
personally attacked, especially, in cases like bibas was pouring his venom on my personal abilities, that is not
what we are supposed to discuss here. That is none of
Bibas’ biz to tell where my personal abilities stand.
God bless you.
Gyaen
Comment by Gyaen — January 26, 2006 @ 1:51 am
Hey Gyaen !
Well you can take the comments the way you like but hey you did try to come up with some back up information. Great. Nice improvement.
Now as for your accusation that I am being intimidating, I need a good reason to justify how I became so personal. I wrote my comments on the basis of your posting, nothing else. I dont know you personally for all those things…
And your comments about China…I will have to say “nice try”…No one dares to back off from China as the country that backs off from China suffers itself. You have to understand the capitalistic nature of money flows. Just look at the news of Google…and you will understand why companies wont back off from China and why it can be a source of inspiration for us along with being a large product as well as factor market…
Comment by bibas — January 26, 2006 @ 3:32 am
though lenghty, some of Gyaen’s comments reflect he hates chinese political system or chinese government. No comment on that.
China as a country may express concerns over Nepal as any other coutry of the world does. I don’t think the chinese voice is bad so far. One may elaborate the good or bad aspects behind the present concern of China (and of others too) based on hypothesis he builds up.
I do not agree on other elaboration about the weak position of chinese economy as Gyaen tried to put. Had this blogsite been a proper place to continue discuss about the vulnerability of chinese economy, we may continue discussing about it (but I don’t think so). China is smart enough to learn from the failure of east asian economy in ‘95-’00. They have managed to hold second largest treasury of US and the largest amount of hard cash (US dollar) benefitting from their long-run trade surplus. The amount of surplus dollar they have in stock is enough to shake US economy, therefore US will not take any step to de-stabilize chinese economy. If you have observed the root cause of massive deflation of Ruble (the russian currency) that dragged already poor Russian economy to complete collapse that explains many thing. You may see a possibility of (as if the worst scenario is considered) similar deflation to occur if the dollar rich countries like China release their stocked US dollars in market. That is the reason USA is compelled to settle debates with China all the time showing its maximum flexibility, whether in listing tarrif-rated quota or imposing dumping charges or pegging fixed currency-conversion rate or else. This has now become a supplement weapon in global economy and in politics, in which, China has strong hand.
I do agree other comments that intend to criticize Chinese crushing mentality, but shall this be the matter of our concern regarding nepal’s current turmoil? At least, I am sure, Chinese brigadier did not train RNA (instead they were trained by Americans sometime before) neither the maoist. There are hundreds of RNA corps in USA coming to learn how to control people using the weapon of mass distruction (we have seen excessive use of the poisonous tear gas so far), how to advocate cruel action of RNA in the name of fighting against terrorist group and how to face-shave afterward using the lovely slogans of human-right preservation. China might have supplied some pistols and grinades, but who gave thousands of M-16s to RNA?
sorry, i tried to be short, but went long, hi hi hi hi
Comment by Roshan — January 26, 2006 @ 5:53 am
ati raaamro…
yesma katai khot chhaina….
Comment by chitra — January 27, 2006 @ 1:47 am
ZZ,
Your arguments show another facet of Nepali life.
I know there are millions of Nepalis who are proud
of getting Indian citizens. Examples are simply
available if you walk in the streets of Delhi,
Bombay or Deharadun.
In this blogsite, you can see there are some
people who are running propaganda against democracy
will certainly dislike my stand on “China can never
be a partner to Nepal, it can be only a temporary
card to do something against India.” China is much
terrible bull and will never appreciate democracy
around the world, nor in Nepal. Well, China attracted
Nepalis because they made Prithvi Highway, Arnico
highway, and PokharaBaglung road and Gorkha Narayan
ghat roat. India did make Tribhuvan Highway, Siddrath
Highway in addition to jobs to millions of nepalis
in the past, now and in future. The education system
in nepal that surpasses the world standard, can also
be indirectly attributed to the quality of eduation in
India. Its all can be attributed to open border.
India will remain Nepal’s best partner eventhough
there are some harsh moments, and incidences. We
are certainly disappointed with the safe haven
given by India …. Maoists killed people in humanly,
but in last 1 year, the inhumanity in RNA spreads
much faster and wider than the way Maoists did in early
days until 2004. It is very surprising to hear that
Maoists have changed their harsh stance and invited all
those people who were forced to leave their villages and
they have waived all their fatwa, and the ball has gone
to RNA’s side. Now, RNA is much worst in human right
than current Maoists ( I am not talking about the Maosit’s
in the past). RNA is now guided by Chinese Embassy and
Pakistani embassies. Chinese love to crush anyone who loves
democracy or so faith in Democracy.
Autocratic regime are good for Capitalistic / Corporate
america, and not for democratic america. China’s global
economy may die if USA and Europe switch their imports to
India or some other east asian countries as they did in
1995. In 1995, they move all plants from Thailand, Malasia,
Indonesia and to china, and the economy in these east countries suddenly sunk …. and we saw the crisis of 1995-2000 in East asia. Same cycle may repeat in china, soon
or later and china’s dream will soon die. The important
thing china lacks is brand name, unless they have their
own brand name, the production plants can be switched to
any other country and it can create a big trouble autocratic
china’s regime and demand for democracy in China may repeat
again. Until then, china will try to widen its influence
around the world. Well, these are possibilities. World will
not like to see china a failed state or crumble into pieces,
so world does not want china to break into pieces and have
several Afganistans. So, world will only not let china widen
its influence in other countries. In this fight against
autocratic regimes, US, UK, EU and India are on one side i.e.
with people in nepal and China and Pakis are with Royal
Govt of nepal. China is smelling that King’s rule can not prevail in nepal, so they look shifting their stance or
having crocodile tears. China will never be a partner to
nepal in her quest for democracy.
Lets not forget that democracy in nepal has not failed in
last 13 years, and what is happening is also a step towards
strengthening democracy. The leaders are learning that
they should not be corrupt and when a next set of leaders
will come they will not make the same mistake, but there
will be no fool proof, and we will be making new mistakes
, should learn from these mistakes and vow not to make
same mistake again.
Lets not say that last 13 years was not worth. We had
changed our education system and that was a great achievement. That happened only because of democracy.
we have so many great colleges and schools who provide
world class education, especially, techncial schools.
Who goes to china these days from nepal, only those
who can not get admission in Nepal.
God bless Nepal.
das
Comment by das — January 31, 2006 @ 3:41 pm
Autocratic regime are good for Capitalistic / Corporate
america, and not for democratic america. China’s global
economy may die if USA and Europe switch their imports to
India or some other east asian countries as they did in
1995. In 1995, they move all plants from Thailand, Malasia,
Indonesia and to china, and the economy in these east countries suddenly sunk …. and we saw the crisis of 1995-2000 in East asia. Same cycle may repeat in china, soon
or later and china’s dream will soon die. The important
thing china lacks is brand name, unless they have their
own brand name, the production plants can be switched to
any other country and it can create a big trouble autocratic
china’s regime and demand for democracy in China may repeat
again. Until then, china will try to widen its influence
around the world. Well, these are possibilities. World will
not like to see china a failed state or crumble into pieces,
so world does not want china to break into pieces and have
several Afganistans. So, world will only not let china widen
its influence in other countries. In this fight against
autocratic regimes, US, UK, EU and India are on one side i.e.
with people in nepal and China and Pakis are with Royal
Govt of nepal. China is smelling that King’s rule can not prevail in nepal, so they look shifting their stance or
having crocodile tears. China will never be a partner to
nepal in her quest for democracy.
Thanks,
Leela Bastola
gurgaon
http://leelash.tripod.com
Comment by Leela Bastoal,Gurgaon ,India — July 14, 2006 @ 6:45 pm