Your arguments show another facet of Nepali life.
I know there are millions of Nepalis who are proud
of getting Indian citizens. Examples are simply
available if you walk in the streets of Delhi,
Bombay or Deharadun.

In this blogsite, you can see there are some
people who are running propaganda against democracy
will certainly dislike my stand on “China can never
be a partner to Nepal, it can be only a temporary
card to do something against India.” China is much
terrible bull and will never appreciate democracy
around the world, nor in Nepal. Well, China attracted
Nepalis because they made Prithvi Highway, Arnico
highway, and PokharaBaglung road and Gorkha Narayan
ghat roat. India did make Tribhuvan Highway, Siddrath
Highway in addition to jobs to millions of nepalis
in the past, now and in future. The education system
in nepal that surpasses the world standard, can also
be indirectly attributed to the quality of eduation in
India. Its all can be attributed to open border.
India will remain Nepal’s best partner eventhough
there are some harsh moments, and incidences. We
are certainly disappointed with the safe haven
given by India …. Maoists killed people in humanly,
but in last 1 year, the inhumanity in RNA spreads
much faster and wider than the way Maoists did in early
days until 2004. It is very surprising to hear that
Maoists have changed their harsh stance and invited all
those people who were forced to leave their villages and
they have waived all their fatwa, and the ball has gone
to RNA’s side. Now, RNA is much worst in human right
than current Maoists ( I am not talking about the Maosit’s
in the past). RNA is now guided by Chinese Embassy and
Pakistani embassies. Chinese love to crush anyone who loves
democracy or so faith in Democracy.

Autocratic regime are good for Capitalistic / Corporate
america, and not for democratic america. China’s global
economy may die if USA and Europe switch their imports to
India or some other east asian countries as they did in
1995. In 1995, they move all plants from Thailand, Malasia,
Indonesia and to china, and the economy in these east countries suddenly sunk …. and we saw the crisis of 1995-2000 in East asia. Same cycle may repeat in china, soon
or later and china’s dream will soon die. The important
thing china lacks is brand name, unless they have their
own brand name, the production plants can be switched to
any other country and it can create a big trouble autocratic
china’s regime and demand for democracy in China may repeat
again. Until then, china will try to widen its influence
around the world. Well, these are possibilities. World will
not like to see china a failed state or crumble into pieces,
so world does not want china to break into pieces and have
several Afganistans. So, world will only not let china widen
its influence in other countries. In this fight against
autocratic regimes, US, UK, EU and India are on one side i.e.
with people in nepal and China and Pakis are with Royal
Govt of nepal. China is smelling that King’s rule can not prevail in nepal, so they look shifting their stance or
having crocodile tears. China will never be a partner to
nepal in her quest for democracy.

Lets not forget that democracy in nepal has not failed in
last 13 years, and what is happening is also a step towards
strengthening democracy. The leaders are learning that
they should not be corrupt and when a next set of leaders
will come they will not make the same mistake, but there
will be no fool proof, and we will be making new mistakes
, should learn from these mistakes and vow not to make
same mistake again.

Lets not say that last 13 years was not worth. We had
changed our education system and that was a great achievement. That happened only because of democracy.
we have so many great colleges and schools who provide
world class education, especially, techncial schools.
Who goes to china these days from nepal, only those
who can not get admission in Nepal.

God bless Nepal.
das

China as a country may express concerns over Nepal as any other coutry of the world does. I don’t think the chinese voice is bad so far. One may elaborate the good or bad aspects behind the present concern of China (and of others too) based on hypothesis he builds up.

I do not agree on other elaboration about the weak position of chinese economy as Gyaen tried to put. Had this blogsite been a proper place to continue discuss about the vulnerability of chinese economy, we may continue discussing about it (but I don’t think so). China is smart enough to learn from the failure of east asian economy in ‘95-’00. They have managed to hold second largest treasury of US and the largest amount of hard cash (US dollar) benefitting from their long-run trade surplus. The amount of surplus dollar they have in stock is enough to shake US economy, therefore US will not take any step to de-stabilize chinese economy. If you have observed the root cause of massive deflation of Ruble (the russian currency) that dragged already poor Russian economy to complete collapse that explains many thing. You may see a possibility of (as if the worst scenario is considered) similar deflation to occur if the dollar rich countries like China release their stocked US dollars in market. That is the reason USA is compelled to settle debates with China all the time showing its maximum flexibility, whether in listing tarrif-rated quota or imposing dumping charges or pegging fixed currency-conversion rate or else. This has now become a supplement weapon in global economy and in politics, in which, China has strong hand.

I do agree other comments that intend to criticize Chinese crushing mentality, but shall this be the matter of our concern regarding nepal’s current turmoil? At least, I am sure, Chinese brigadier did not train RNA (instead they were trained by Americans sometime before) neither the maoist. There are hundreds of RNA corps in USA coming to learn how to control people using the weapon of mass distruction (we have seen excessive use of the poisonous tear gas so far), how to advocate cruel action of RNA in the name of fighting against terrorist group and how to face-shave afterward using the lovely slogans of human-right preservation. China might have supplied some pistols and grinades, but who gave thousands of M-16s to RNA?

sorry, i tried to be short, but went long, hi hi hi hi

And your comments about China…I will have to say “nice try”…No one dares to back off from China as the country that backs off from China suffers itself. You have to understand the capitalistic nature of money flows. Just look at the news of Google…and you will understand why companies wont back off from China and why it can be a source of inspiration for us along with being a large product as well as factor market…

Let me tell you: aula le tara dekhauda, tara tira herne
ho, aula ma herne hoina.

In your last posting you were desperate when you
did not have logic and contents, you started pouring
your personal venom on me, i.e. you were too personal
and check your last posting. I am not
going to repond to your posting in future and no
one should communicate with people like you who
are more emotional, specifically, personal. You should
learn to respect others by avoiding any personal attack,
particularly when it comes to social or public issues.

Umesh ji, you should monitor contributers so that no one is
personally attacked, especially, in cases like bibas was pouring his venom on my personal abilities, that is not
what we are supposed to discuss here. That is none of
Bibas’ biz to tell where my personal abilities stand.

God bless you.
Gyaen

Your arguments show another facet of Nepali life.
I know there are millions of Nepalis who are proud
of getting Indian citizens. Examples are simply
available if you walk in the streets of Delhi,
Bombay or Deharadun.

In this blogsite, you can see there are some
people who are running propaganda against democracy
will certainly dislike my stand on “China can never
be a partner to Nepal, it can be only a temporary
card to do something against India.” China is much
terrible bull and will never appreciate democracy
around the world, nor in Nepal. Well, China attracted
Nepalis because they made Prithvi Highway, Arnico
highway, and PokharaBaglung road and Gorkha Narayan
ghat roat. India did make Tribhuvan Highway, Siddrath
Highway in addition to jobs to millions of nepalis
in the past, now and in future. The education system
in nepal that surpasses the world standard, can also
be indirectly attributed to the quality of eduation in
India. Its all can be attributed to open border.
India will remain Nepal’s best partner eventhough
there are some harsh moments, and incidences. We
are certainly disappointed with the safe haven
given by India …. Maoists killed people in humanly,
but in last 1 year, the inhumanity in RNA spreads
much faster and wider than the way Maoists did in early
days until 2004. It is very surprising to hear that
Maoists have changed their harsh stance and invited all
those people who were forced to leave their villages and
they have waived all their fatwa, and the ball has gone
to RNA’s side. Now, RNA is much worst in human right
than current Maoists ( I am not talking about the Maosit’s
in the past). RNA is now guided by Chinese Embassy and
Pakistani embassies. Chinese love to crush anyone who loves
democracy or so faith in Democracy.

Autocratic regime are good for Capitalistic / Corporate
america, and not for democratic america. China’s global
economy may die if USA and Europe switch their imports to
India or some other east asian countries as they did in
1995. In 1995, they move all plants from Thailand, Malasia,
Indonesia and to china, and the economy in these east countries suddenly sunk …. and we saw the crisis of 1995-2000 in East asia. Same cycle may repeat in china, soon
or later and china’s dream will soon die. The important
thing china lacks is brand name, unless they have their
own brand name, the production plants can be switched to
any other country and it can create a big trouble autocratic
china’s regime and demand for democracy in China may repeat
again. Until then, china will try to widen its influence
around the world. Well, these are possibilities. World will
not like to see china a failed state or crumble into pieces,
so world does not want china to break into pieces and have
several Afganistans. So, world will only not let china widen
its influence in other countries. In this fight against
autocratic regimes, US, UK, EU and India are on one side i.e.
with people in nepal and China and Pakis are with Royal
Govt of nepal. China is smelling that King’s rule can not prevail in nepal, so they look shifting their stance or
having crocodile tears. China will never be a partner to
nepal in her quest for democracy.

Lets not forget that democracy in nepal has not failed in
last 13 years, and what is happening is also a step towards
strengthening democracy. The leaders are learning that
they should not be corrupt and when a next set of leaders
will come they will not make the same mistake, but there
will be no fool proof, and we will be making new mistakes
, should learn from these mistakes and vow not to make
same mistake again.

Lets not say that last 13 years was not worth. We had
changed our education system and that was a great achievement. That happened only because of democracy.
we have so many great colleges and schools who provide
world class education, especially, techncial schools.
Who goes to china these days from nepal, only those
who can not get admission in Nepal.

God bless Nepal.
Gyaen

Undoubtly, Nepal is less strategically important country for China, so is China for Nepal. Historically, Nepal is much inclined towards India due to its geographic location and accessibility to the world through India. For its sustainability, Nepal needs more favor of India than of China.

India always bullied on Nepal, specifically in political aspects. Our leaders are happy to let them do it. (what does the recent visits of our beloved political leaders to Delhi reflects? What does The meeting of nepali leaders with Maoists in Delhi despite the denial of Indian government signifies?)

My poimt is, its not important whether India is good or China. The fact to consider is, which one is important for Nepal, China or India.

Still, Prithvi N Shah’s opinion holds - “China is sleeping tiger for us, do not annoy him”. He did not say “sleeping elephant”. It can be great or terrible country for Nepal. India’s contribution is also great to us and will remain great (either for positive reasons or negative). Most of folks in our generation have anti-indian centiments basically due to Panchayet era education and some influence of leftist movement in the country. Perhaps that is the reason, I found only few people talking about positive contribution of India to nepal.

Being myself involved in some grass root level leftist student movement, I learnt chanting anti indian slogans. But, I felt that we are in mistake as a large mass of nepalese do benefit from india, mostly in hard times and mostly when they are fighting against DO OR DIE crisis (either political, economical or else) of their lives. India can be viewed as a bad neighbor of Nepal, but good neighbor of nepalese. Nowhere in other part of the world, a foreigner (nepalese people for India) entertain so much freedom and opportunities as we nepalese do in India.

Why not Nepal Vs India Vs Sikkim?

This is just for discussion that I anticipate there will be larger benefits to nepalese in total to change the status of Nepal as a state of Greater India or Greater China, than remaining an autocratic kingdom (a quasi failed state) as of today. When I talked this to my friends, I was almost beaten. I am sure you also will get angry reading this. However, I kept telling my friends, there is no harm in assessing “What if” situations.

Today, nepalese feel great when they get US greencard. There is open competition in filling out DV lotteries, no body seems against this trend. In a free society, one may choose to be american, the other one indian. If the majority feels good to be american or indian why not change the whole country a state of others. I do not understand, why all nepalese want to be american and why nepalese don’t want to turn nepal a state of america (but will america be ready for this?). Everybody thinks we should take benefit of rising economy of China and india, why not other benefits beyond economy that one can get merging its own country?

All politicians say there is a great threat to Nepal becoming it as Sikkim (or indulged by India). India has its own problems, why it will be interested to add more problems taking Nepal. I bet, Sikkim is living more prosperous and dignified life than Nepal. There is peace, motivation, law and order and self esteem (Just take time to visit Sikkim 2 weeks or 1 month of your holidays, you will feel living in there for your whole retired life). These days, sikkim is heading toward becoming leader in preserving art and culture of Nepal. Shame for Nepal, being an independent country, it can not do that even.

I have visited more than 15 countries, but everywhere I was scrutinized so badly just because I have green colored nepalese passport, and nepalese are unfamous for drug-trafficing. Those having red or navy-blue passport do rarely face such unnecessary scrutinization although there are top rated criminals in those countries more than anywhere else.

Under the assumption, we will have peaceful Nepal and the King, general citizen can rise upto his highest career to be nearest to the King, obeying his orders (a slave of King?). See the ruling class Thapas, and others, they just know to repeat “Shree 5 ko sadikchhaa….”. Nepalese diaspora have proven they can rise much higher than the King’s slaves when they convert them a global citizen.

Having a large country, large population, large economy, large competition is essential to have large opportunity and better law and order. If Nepal remains firm in becoming a small country, we will see continuation of present condition, instability, poverty, etc. Capable people keep moving out of country. Today we export our best people from the country to US, Europe and Japan, tomorrow, to China, India, etc. We keep hoping to have better Nepal (expressing opinions in blogs and debating), but we keep frustrating on the fact that there are none capable people in the country, because they already left in one or other way.